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Testimony from Kiev UBF ex member 
10th-Jan-2008 05:27 pm
Today the CIS UBF Directors conference begins in Kiev, Ukraine. They held it in Kiev this year since Kiev UBF just finished construction of their new “Bible house”. Peter Kim, the director of Kiev UBF for years, is considered an exemplary missionary in UBF: he was invited to the US to deliver special reports on “rising disciples”, he was one of the main speakers at the last world mission report, he was praised in all UBF publications and so on.

Here is the translation of the testimony of Andrey S., former member of Kiev UBF, who wrote it on a Russian Christian Internet forum on November 24, 2007 (here). Andrey was one of the key members of Kiev UBF. Exactly one year ago, Andrey had been praised by Peter Kim in his mission report at the 2007 CIS UBF directors conference as the most successful group leader. But several weeks ago he was expelled from Kiev UBF by Peter Kim. What was the reason for that? Did Andrey commit any sin? No. He just told Peter Kim that UBF “had to go through repentance for its detestable acts in the past”.

The brother responsible for the construction of the building was also dismissed from his position as soon as he publicly opposed Peter Kim. He was dismissed when the building was almost finished. Buildings were always more important for UBF than the truth and holiness.

Andrei P. (Ex Moscow UBF)
 
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10th-Jan-2008 04:15 pm (UTC)
Last year, a lot of things happened in the UBF chapters in the CIS and Mongolia. Many UBF shepherds started to ask questions about the ungodly practices they experienced in their own UBF chapters and about the issues that had been raised in the 3 reform movements before, but were never answered or addressed by the UBF leaders until today. When they heard disturbing reports about Peter Chang in Bonn, they had been silenced with phrases like “Bonn is far away.” Now, Peter Chang has become the UBF director of these countries and spreading his “business mission” there.

Through the Internet, people are better informed; and Internet discussions like in the RSQUBF forum started in Russian language, too. Because, as we know, UBF leaders are completely unwilling to even discuss reform issues, most of these people were forced to leave UBF. After Belarus (Minsk) and Russia (Moscow), now the members in the Ukraine (Kiev) are starting to wake up, too. I am glad to see that among those who left or consider leaving are particularly those members who I considered the nicest ones. I knew they had a conscience and always hoped that this will happen one day and that they would not be abused and exploited forever by UBF or become just as corrupt as their leaders.

Some of them didn’t just silently leave, but are trying to educate others about their reasons, help them to see the problem, and find ways of living a really meaningful and healthy life before God. All have their stories to tell. This latest story here is only one of many of these stories. I hope that you are encouraged by it.

Chris (Ex Heidelberg UBF)
10th-Jan-2008 05:06 pm (UTC)
I think many things have changed not only in CIS and Mongolia. As far as I know, mostly all followers in Sofia (Bulgaria) also left UBF. We can read about this, for example, in this conference report by Peter Chang. Some expressions from it:
"Even though we experienced pain before the conference when several shepherds left because of Satan’s work...."
"In spite of Satan’s attack on Bulgaria students through an anti-UBF internet site we thank God for Geogi and Maria who stood firm and became the Abraham and Maria of faith for Bulgaria."

Nikolay (Ex Minsk UBF)
10th-Jan-2008 06:24 pm (UTC)
That's good to hear. Yes, there is probably a lot more going on. I have also heard about long-time members leaving in the Spanish speaking countries. (By the way, we should not call these things "changes". UBF itself never really changed. Only people leave with disillusionment, after years of abuse. But that's not something new.)
10th-Jan-2008 06:38 pm (UTC) - Hi to Russian brothers
I'd just like to say Hi to Russian brothers. I wish each of you a very happy and blessed life after getting out of the ubf. Surely the Lord is pleased by your honesty and decency before Him. You have done yourselves the best favor you can by leaving the ubf. I encourage you to eliminate from your mind everything you were taught at the ubf. Instead, seek out healthy Christian teachings and fill your life with these. Jesus Christ died one time a long time ago for all our sins. Simply accept his genuine grace one time and you have assurance of eternal salvation. When you accept it is really yours. He will not take it back, no man can take it back. God bless each of you. Nick in Chicago USA
10th-Jan-2008 09:32 pm (UTC)
TESTIMONY by Andrey S. (ex Kiev UBF)

Yesterday several brothers and I were virtually expelled from the church [Kiev UBF]. I think it is difficult to misinterpret the pronouncements of our pastor [Peter Kim, the Kiev UBF director, he is not really a pastor], since he repeated them about 20 times: “Such people should leave”, “It is better for you not to come anymore”, “Change yourself, we will continue in the same way as we have always done”. That whole story did not begin yesterday, such stories repeated in UBF time and again for more than 40 years.

I have not been an accidental person in UBF and I have not been a “rebel”. I attended UBF for almost 11 years and did everything I was demanded to do. Often I felt that something was wrong but could not understand the exact problem. I was a witness of many weird acts: punishments for coming too late [to UBF meetings], running around the campus shouting slogans, revilements and humiliations for hours of people who brought too small an offering or just had a sad face, permanent atmosphere of fear of the pastor [the Kiev UBF Director], compulsion of sick persons to leave their beds to attend insignificant and unwholesome UBF meetings that often were dedicated to humiliations of somebody else, and many other things. I endured those things, believing they were accidental mistakes, for who does not make mistakes?

But one day I discovered that they are not accidental mistakes of a specific man, but fruits of a system. I found out horrible facts about forced abortions (in Chicago and Korea), destruction of families and violation of the personality of members. All these things are called “disciple training” in UBF. I am sad that the understanding of these words depreciated to such a level. When I found out all these things, my eyes were opened and I decided that it was impossible, sinful and irresponsibly before God to cowardly keep silent. I went to the pastor and talked to him that the church had to go through repentance for these detestable things. Two days before (as if they had a presentiment) I had been dismissed from Sunday messages, and the group, where I was the leader, was broken up (of course only in part, the Korean missionaries left my group, but my Bible students remained). The talk [with the director Peter Kim] was difficult, I had a feeling of pain and suffering, and I was named a “person with an evil spirit”. Nevertheless I did not leave, but continued to talk personally with the pastor, and later several other brothers also talked with him, and finally I publicly shared my testimony. It was a difficult time, but I decided to endure it and stay, in the hope that everything will change. This whole story lasted 8 months. I did not behave insolently or forwardly, I tried to talk decently and with dignity.

Since about a month I was not talking with anybody about the issue. But yesterday the pastor himself put an end to it. It started with one sister delivering a message on 1Tim 2:8-15 (the brothers were not allowed to deliver messages because they sort of fell into disgrace in the eyes of the pastor). Please read this passage carefully [as it contains the words “I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent.”]. In her message the sister said “I thank the brothers for leaving the sisters the spiritual privilege of delivering messages”. At the end of the meeting, the pastor reminded everybody of that phrase, adding that the brothers did not simply leave that privilege to the sisters, but that they lost that privilege, calling them “rubbish.” Then one of the brothers stood up, said “You are telling a lie!”, and went out. This brother was responsible for the construction of the new church building, which was a very big work and responsibility (of course without getting any compensation for that). He then was immediately dismissed from his position and a new person was appointed [when the building was almost finished]. After that the words “such people should better leave” were used, particularly referring to three persons: my friend, the brother who already went out, and me.
10th-Jan-2008 09:34 pm (UTC)
I do not regret anything and I thank the Lord. The Lord was leading me and helped me not to be a fearful person. The Lord taught me an omni-important lesson: There is no place for exaltation of one above the other in any Christian community, as Jesus taught in Mk 10 and Mt 23. The violation of even the smaller commands of Jesus leads to bad consequences. I had experienced that on my own back.

What next? I want to open a home ministry, something like www.simplechurch.com.ua. It is important to communicate with Christians. They will have a conference in two days. I want to better understand how to walk my life and minister in the future.

Andrei S. (ex Kiev UBF)
23rd-Jun-2008 01:27 pm (UTC) - Peter Kim's pattern of abuse
I should add a link here to the past discussion about another former Kiev UBF member. Peter Kim displays the same attitude, prevalent in UBF leaders: "If you don't like it, just leave".
11th-Feb-2008 09:00 pm (UTC) - "Exemplary" in UBF's inverted morality
Peter Kim's tactics are reminiscent of his "mentor", Peter Chang of Bonn. Like Chang, he tries to occupy a special place in the hearts of the female UBF members and play them off against their husbands, if their husbands should "rebel." People like Chang and Kim (and Abraham Hwang in Mexico) are "exemplary" leaders in UBF and are elevated to higher and higher positions. As they say, "The cream rises to the top." In UBF, the cream tends to be the most cultic.
11th-Feb-2008 09:04 pm (UTC) - Side story of the Kiev UBF "bible house"
Apparently, John DePaz, a Chicago UBF fanatic "missionary" to the Kiev chapter, is being praised for having sold his family's car to offer money toward the cause of buying/building the Kiev "bible house". The values being espoused in the Kiev UBF, I can say without hesitation, are completely upside down.
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