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Happy Birthday, Billy Graham 
8th-Nov-2008 12:51 pm
Dilbert
Here is a typical passage from a UBF lesson (quoting from "Jesus Heals a Demon-Possessed Boy", UBF Chicago Sunday sermon 02/14/1999):
Once a renowned journalist interviewed Evangelist Dr. Billy Graham: "What would you do if you lived once more in this world?" Evangelist Dr. Billy Graham answered, "If I could live again, I would study the Bible quietly and teach the Bible person-to-person." We are doing what the famous evangelist is aspiring to do, even in his dreams.
This rumor is certainly going back to Samuel Lee who liked to make up such things. In this case Lee wanted to show how UBF 1:1 evangelization is superior to mass evangelization, and claimed even Billy Graham envied UBF for their style of evangelization. Others then simply copied Lee's sermons, without ever checking. Typical for a UBF lesson is also the vague formulation "once" and "a renowned journalist", and emphasizing the Ph.D. title of Billy Graham.

As has been mentioned before, this is far from being true. Billy Graham consistently only regretted that he did not spend more time with his family, something that is considered a cardinal sin in UBF. I quote from an interview on the occasion of his 90th birthday yesterday:
"Do you have any regrets as you look back on your life?" "I regret that I didn't spend more time with my family; I'm sure Ruth and the children paid a heavy price for all the times I was absent. I always tell younger evangelists not to feel like they have to accept every invitation they get, or be absent from home so much."
Billy Graham also added that he wished he had studied more, but I'm sure he didn't mean UBF style Bible study or even "one-to-one" with that.
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9th-Dec-2008 05:14 am (UTC) - Billy Graham
Evangelist Dr. Billy Graham answered, "If I could live again, I would study the Bible quietly and teach the Bible person-to-person." We are doing what the famous evangelist is aspiring to do, even in his dreams.
Evangelist Dr. Billy Graham answered, "If I could live again, I would study the Bible quietly and teach the Bible person-to-person." We are doing what the famous evangelist is aspiring to do, even in his dreams.


Dr. Lee might have been greatly mistaken about Dr. Graham. Teaching the Bible "person-to-person" could mean a lot of different things. UBF one-to-one Bible study is heavily focused on "making" committed members which is considered "raising disciples" in UBF. But what Dr. Graham had in mind with "teaching the Bible person-to-person" might not be exactly what Dr. Lee had in mind with UBF style one-to-one Bible study whose main goal is to make a person remain loyal to UBF system for life.

So one should ask, "what does it mean by "teaching the Bible person-to-person and how should it be implemented in real life?" I believe that Dr. Graham's "teaching the Bible person-to-person" must be very much different from Dr. Lee's one-to-one Bible study implemented in UBF.
9th-Dec-2008 07:38 am (UTC) - Re: Billy Graham
My main point was that Billy Graham never made that statement and Lee's habit of fabricating such things, creating his own reality which was taken for the truth by his followers. But your point is also true. What normal Christians like Billy Graham understand under "person-to-person evangelization" is completely different from UBF's meaning. First, it is really person-to-person and not shepherd-over-sheep like in UBF or rather master-over-slave. Second, it is evangelization, and not recruitment, indoctrination and obedience training.

By the way, I refuse to call him "Dr." Lee because he did not hold any real degree. His Dr. title was bought in the US from an institute that was well-known as a "degree mill". Lee did not even know Hebrew and Greek, how can he be called a "Dr." in theology? Normally, you will need that even for a master degree. Lee was a charlatan and impostor. He had neither any kind of real education nor any spiritual authority, he only professed to have all of this.

Mr. Graham graduated from Wheaton college which I do not esteem very much, but at least not at a degree mill. But did you notice that neither he himself and rarely anybody else calls him "Dr."? It's the "Billy Graham Evangelistic Association" not the "Dr. Billy Graham Evangelistic Association." He was not such a braggart as "Dr." Lee.
10th-Dec-2008 07:01 pm (UTC) - Re: Billy Graham
It's a good point "hdcrist", the degree is not something importan to teach the bible, evangelization, etc.. but I can not imagine some of the Jesús diciples fighthing and upset because notbody called him (diciple)"The doctor fisher Peter" bla.. bla... but for UBF the degree is something very immportan to have a degree or something that validate there empty soul and knowledge about real espiritual life, too much knowledge equal to big head, too much prayer equal to humility.
too much degrees without real espiritual life and preayer equal to nothing.
Our lord Jesús never insist to the people to call him Son of God, but the people reconize Him as this, when they study the bible (scriptures). No body must be called Sheapard, DR, Ministry, etc.. if they no represent this in the outside life out of the churh. (It's clear the point?).
here in guadalajara mexico, it's for many real churches known ubf as no espiritual meting "pastor""shepards""Ms" caus a lot of inmorality inside(adultery, husbands hits wifes, sons have double life outside, Misionarys? cheaters, sheapards with 2 secrets girlfriends inside, lesbianity sheapardes and sheapards (it's this posible?), etc..) but they repeat and repeat upset callme "degree _______"
how it's posible that they dont´t discover what is visible for outside chuches?
the reason is that they are blind
John 5:6 When Jesus saw him lie, and knew that he had been now a long time in that case, he saith unto him, Wilt thou be made whole?
Inside everything is fine and outside is wrong, just they have the real knowledge. but i have something to say
Osea 4:6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children.
this is the real reason they have no receve the real whole bedition from God. they usurp degrees of priest without holiness
we must pray for them for be released from Slavery of legalism, etc, etc,
well thats my point

22nd-Dec-2008 12:43 pm (UTC) - Re: Billy Graham
Lee did not even know Hebrew and Greek, how can he be called a "Dr." in theology?

As you say "Dr." Lee didn't know a lot of things. Most importantly, he didn't seem to know what he was talking about. I believe that anyone who holds a docorate degree must carry very significant amount of scholarly quality especially in his writing. By scholarly quality I mean that one should show "reasonable" degree of sysnthesis and anlaysis in his support of what he is trying to say. "Dr." Lee cannot just assume that his version of one-to-one Bible study is the same as Dr. Graham's version of person-to-person Bible study. I wonder how he could have managed to defend his PhD thesis with this kind of poor reasoning skill.

In UBF this kind of scholarly quality is despised as "human thinking" and "mere talking". Instead, blindly copying "Dr." Lee's manuscripts is praised as the highest virtue. When one suppresses his own ideas and blindly adopts "Dr." Lee's poor reasoning, he has finally "grown up spiritually" according to UBF system. The UBF leaders call this "discipleship training". They even find an example for this in the Bible: Rebekah's decision in Genesis. How could Rebekah's decision of faith be the same as UBF style of "discipleship training"? Sadly, UBF does not allow this kind of freedom for the sheep. The sheep are taught that this kind of freedom is evil "human thinking". This is the essence of UBF one-to-one Bible study: Deny evil "human thinking" and sincerely copy "Dr." Lee's manuscipts. The UBF sheep are only taught to inherit "Dr." Lee's beautiful spiritual legacy which is claimed to be worthy of denying their own freedom.
23rd-Dec-2008 04:49 am (UTC) - More suspect Ph.D.s
UBF is touting a "partnership" with "Midwest University", which is somewhere around St. Louis. Apparently, Midwest University had a table with brochures or something at UBF's latest international conference. That erstwhile Lee and Barry devotee, Joseph Ahn, allegedly got a Ph.D. from Midwest University this year. John Jun has apparently given a talk at Midwest University. Upon investigation, the faculty of the "divinity school" of Midwest University is largely Korean, which seems a bit odd for a university in St. Louis. It appears to be a convenient way for Koreans living in the states to obtain Ph.D.'s in religious studies. There's also this bit from a 2007 Joongang Ilbo story:

"Since January 2003, a total of 7,765 people reported their doctoral degrees from foreign universities, and 54 percent of them earned degrees from U.S. universities, according to the data."

Among the fake degree holders, 140 majored in Christian religious studies and the rest earned degrees in business, education, art or other fields. The degrees were issued by 23 diploma mills, with 39 each from American World University and Midwest University."
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