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“Cult law: Human Rights violations vs Freedom of Religion”  
29th-Feb-2012 10:37 pm
   A recent draft law in Russia's State Duma would ban "cults" from operating within the Russian Federation. http://youtu.be/D4qrNY-hKE0
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4th-Mar-2012 04:26 pm (UTC)
I agree that people should be free to believe everything they want; religious freedom should be guaranteed.

On the other hand:

* There should be limits to propagating obvious lies, racist ideology and xenophobic hate-preaching. For instance, in Germany and some other countries, Holocaust denial is forbidden by law.

* There should be limits to cults who use deception and fraud and intimidation and manipulation to first lure people into the cult and then later keep them in the cult. Most people do not join e.g. the Moon cult because they believe Moon is the messiah. They are deceived to believe the group is about world peace, and when they are deep enough involved, they are brainwashed to believe all the cultic teaching. But these are not their own beliefs, they are manipulated.

However, in practice it is very difficult to implement such limits without violating freedom of speech and freedom of religion. As a recent example, France passed a bill criminalizing denial of the Armenian genocide, but last week the top French court stroke down the law again, reasoning it was infriging the freedom of expression.

The difficult question is, where do you draw the line? I really would like to know how the Russians define what a "cult" is, which types of cults should be banned, and what evidence must be provided to show a group is such a cult.

Edited at 2012-03-04 04:30 pm (UTC)
31st-May-2012 10:16 pm (UTC) - Come look at this guy.
Please tell me this Live Journal is not some ubf website to try to bring back people to their cult? Look at this 'man' briankarcher who comments here.
http://www.ubfriends.org/author/brian-karcher/
4th-Jun-2012 04:46 pm (UTC) - Re: Come look at this guy.
No, this livejournal is not some ubf website to try to bring back people to their cult. The fact that briankarcher is a moderator at ubfriends.org is well known. It's also well known that ubfriends.org is frequented by current UBF members. You've concluded from these well-known facts that briankarcher is a UBF plant to try lure people back to UBF. You've also concluded this based on your suspicions from email conversations with briankarcher. If that's the basis for trying to "out" someone, I could just as easily conclude that you are a UBF plant who is trying to discredit briankarcher for his recent contra-UBF activities.

Edited at 2012-06-04 04:47 pm (UTC)
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