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21st-Jun-2006 12:08 pm
How has the evacuation of UBF been coming along? Could anyone tell me if RSQUBF is still helping people leave UBF? I would like to see some posts of people's notes about leaving, and how RSQUBF has helped them see the truth about UBF, as well as help in their recovery. In addition, does anyone have a feel of how anti-UBF sites such as this have impacted the current and loyal UBFers? What have shepherds done in response in a positive nature? (I don't think I'll get much positivity on that one.) Anyway, sometimes it is good to evaluate what we are doing and how God has been working through us. It can be a great encouragement. Encourage each other through your stories on this thread!!!

Blessings,

tgifoz
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21st-Jun-2006 10:42 pm (UTC)
Many people have left UBF in the last years through the information that has been revealed in the Internet. However, these people rarely write testimonies, because they believe everything has already been written, and they cannot contribute any new aspects. Also, they usually leave in a very early stage already, when they haven't yet experienced so much spiritual abuse as the long-time members. Of the long-time members, not many have left. They rather have become more stubborn and indoctrinated.

I would not like to give concrete examples and names, because UBF lurkers are reading here.
22nd-Jun-2006 02:22 pm (UTC) - That little white lie sure is hard to see
This website and discussion with others are incredibly valuable because UBF is very, very effective in the lies that it tells. The most effective lies are 99% truth because they are much harder to spot - and these are the kind UBF tells. (For example, it is true, as they teach, that only Jesus can truly satisfy the needs a person has emotionally and spiritually...and then they try to sell you on buying into a loveless arranged marriage - as if that's God's will.) I had never been a part of a church before that tried to use little "white" lies to manipulate me, so it was important to hear someone say - abuse can and does happen in some churches, like UBF. And clearly point out exactly what those lies are. Because the lies get lost in the bundle of biblical words that they're wrapped up in. It's also so nice to know: I'm NOT the only one who thinks there's something wrong here - I'm not going crazy!

I could go on and on but that is the highest benefit of this site: a chance to see the lie clearly after it's been camouflaged for so long.
23rd-Jun-2006 12:36 am (UTC) - Re: That little white lie sure is hard to see
It's also so nice to know: I'm NOT the only one who thinks there's something wrong here - I'm not going crazy!

Unfortunately, many UBF members do "go crazy." There are also numerous members suffering depression. UBF convinces them that they are the only ones who are doubting "God's mission." They cannot bear to be abused, but cannot leave because UBF convinced them that the abuse is God's will to raise them up. No wonder they become "mental patients" as Lee would say. The more opportunities to read about other people with the same issues is used by God to keep them from "going crazy."
9th-Jul-2006 04:55 am (UTC)
It is an encouragement to hear that people have continued to research UBF independently and make an informed choice of their own about it. Readers, please recognize that all of us who are ex-UBFers that post here have truly experienced some form of abuse, betrayal, misguidance, or aberrant treatment from the would-be Christians in UBF. For newcomers, please keep an open mind as you peruse the many ex-UBF websites and consider the testimonies of what others went through. It may just bring you into a whole new level of faith and life in Christ. Blessing 2 U all!
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