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Theory on Sogam by Dr. Joon Ki Jung 
23rd-Jun-2006 11:16 am
The following is an excerpt of “Theory on Sogam” presented by Dr. Joon Ki Jung. It was delivered by him as a special message in UBF 2006 World Mission Report in Seoul. The English translation is not done by UBF but by me.

http://www.ubf.or.kr/bbs/view.php?id=2006Missionaryconference&page=1&sn1=&divpage=1&sn=off&ss=on&sc=on&select_arrange=headnum&desc=asc&no=26

소감(所感, testimony)의 한문의 뜻은 “느끼는 바”이며 영어명의 의미는 “신앙의 고백, 간증”입니다. 그러나 UBF의 소감은 UBF에서 독특하게 사용하는 개념으로서, 성경을 ‘관찰’, ‘해석’, ‘행하는’ 귀납적인 성경공부를 하는 가운데 탄생한 용어입니다. 단순히 주관적으로 느끼는 바를 기록한 것이 아니라, 성경 말씀에 기초해 자신을 비추어 보고 깊이 생각하는 가운데 성경적인 가치관, 성경적인 관점에서 자아를 형성하도록 돕기 위한 글쓰기입니다. 즉, 소감이란 성경의 메시지를 통해 본인이 깨달은 점을 글로 쓰는 것이라고 정의할 수 있습니다. 이러한 소감에는 세 가지 필요 요건이 있는데 성경 말씀, 회개(죄 고백), 결단이 있어야 한다. 처음 소감을 쓰는 사람들은 말씀에 대한 묵상 없이 그 말씀에 대한 자신의 생각을 나열하는 경우가 많은데, UBF에서는 그러한 소감을 지양(止揚)하며 자신의 생각이 아닌 성경 말씀 자체를 정리하고 깊이 영접하도록 훈련을 줍니다. 그러나 이 훈련이 인위적이거나 강압적이지는 않습니다.

Sogam(所感, testimony), according to Chinese translation, is to express one’s thought on something. Its English translation is to confess one’s Christian faith. But Sogam in UBF has different meaning. The meaning of UBF Sogam has been formed through inductive bible study in which one first observes a bible passage, interprets it and applies it to his life. When one writes a Sogam, he does not simply express his subjective opinion. Sogam is designed to help one deeply think about himself based on the Bible that he can view himself and shape his identity based on biblical value system. So Sogam is defined as writing what one has learned through a message in the Bible. There are three elements that make up a Sogam: word of God, repentance (confession of one’s sin) and making a decision. Those who write a Sogam for the first time tend to list their personal thoughts about a bible passage without deeply meditating on it. UBF does not encourage such Sogams. In UBF one is trained to pay more attention to what the Bible says than to one’s personal thoughts so that he can accept the word of God deeply. But one is not manipulated against one’s will to receive this training in UBF.
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23rd-Jun-2006 04:20 pm (UTC) - Dr. Joon Ki Jung lies about UBF manipulation
Dr. Joon Ki Jung claimed in his speciall message on “Theory on Sogam” that “그러나 이 훈련이 인위적이거나 강압적이지는 않습니다 (one is not manipulated against one’s will to receive this training in UBF.)” I want to claim that Dr. Joon Ki Jung is lying. Anyone can clearly see that a person is being manipulated in UBF when he reads Becky’s life testimony below. Only those who are as strong as Becky can defeat the manipulation in UBF. But those who are as strong as Becky are labeled “humanistic” and “rebellious” in UBF.

Posted below is an excerpt from life testimony by Rebecca (Becky) Kim (Los Angeles, Downey Chapter). English translation is again not done by UBF but by me. Becky shared her life testimony—UBF Sogam—in 2006 UBF Missionary Conference held after 2006 World Mission Report. Becky says that “하지만, 모두들 그와 결혼하라고 압력을 넣고, 그렇지 않으면 하나님께 불순종하는 것이란 느낌을 심어왔습니다 (But everyone around me kept on pushing me so hard to marry him. They also made me think that it would be disobeying God if I didn’t marry him.)”

Even though Becky, by God’s grace, married the UBF shepherd whom she wanted to marry by her 'own' faith and not by other’s faith, this life testimony—UBF Sogam—clearly shows that students are manipulated against their will in UBF. They are manipulated to think that they disobey God when they do not marry someone whom UBF presents to them. It seems that Becky didn’t have any choice but to marry the UBF shepherd. So it seems that she wanted to marry someone at least by her ‘own’ faith if she had no choice but to marry a UBF shepherd.

What if someone who didn’t have as strong faith as Becky was pressured hard to marry a UBF shepherd? That person could have been easily manipulated to obey God by marrying any UBF shepherd presented to him or her. But do not forget that we are talking about a person who is a child of UBF missionary here. What if the person happened to be not a child of UBF missionary? Could the person have had a chance as Becky could afford? If a person is manipulated with his/her marriage this way, what about other matters besides marriage in UBF?

http://www.ubf.or.kr/bbs/zboard.php?id=2006Missionaryconference&page=1&sn1=&divpage=1&sn=off&ss=on&sc=on&select_arrange=headnum&desc=asc&no=26

18살 된 이후, 부모님은 계속 제가 한국인 선교사와 결혼하기를 원하셨습니다. 이것은 제가 죽어도 하기 싫은 일이었습니다. 전 고생스럽게 살고 싶지 않아서, 캠퍼스에서 nice 한 크리스천 boyfriend를 찾았습니다. 그와 결혼할 계획까지 세웠습니다. 하지만, 그 사람은 제가 UBF를 떠나기를 원했기에 결국 우리는 깨어졌습니다. 이 때문에 부모님은 더 적극적으로 저를 UBF 선교사와 결혼하도록 push 하였습니다. 몇 번의 시도마저 실패하고 나서, 끝내는 2000년에 UBF 목자를 만나고자 한국에 갔습니다. 그런데, 처음 상대를 만난 순간 전 우리가 서로에게 맞지 않음을 직감했습니다. 하지만, 모두들 그와 결혼하라고 압력을 넣고, 그렇지 않으면 하나님께 불순종하는 것이란 느낌을 심어왔습니다. 모든 게 뒤죽박죽 된 것 같고, 절망스럽고, 외로웠습니다. 저는 주변의 압력에 의해서가 아니라, 믿음으로 결혼하고 싶었습니다. 그러나, 모두들 그 목자님과만 결혼하라고 하였기에 전 아무에게도 영적인 조언을 구할 수 없었습니다. 의지할 곳이 없는 가운데, 제 인생 처음으로 사람을 의지하지 않고, 오직 하나님께 간절히 기도하였습니다. “하나님 제발 절 도와주세요.” 하고 부르짖었습니다. 이 때, 놀랍게도 다음날 전 다른 목자님께 소개되었고, 단 한 번의 데이트 뒤에 그와 결혼하였습니다. 저를 모임의 믿음이 아닌, 바로 제 자신의 하나님께 대한 믿음으로 결혼하게 하신 하나님께 감사드립니다

After I turned 18, my parents pressured me to marry a UBF missionary. I wanted to rather die than marry a UBF missionary. I didn’t want to suffer. I met a nice Christian boyfriend. I planned to marry him. But it didn’t work out because he wanted me to leave UBF. After this happened, my parents began to push me even harder to marry a UBF missionary. All my attempts to refuse their suggestion failed. Finally I gave into them and went to Korea to meet a UBF shepherd. The moment I met him I knew that he was not meant for me. But everyone around me kept on pushing me so hard to marry him. They also made me think that it would be disobeying God if I didn’t marry him. I was confused so much. I was in deep despair and was very lonely. I didn’t want to marry someone just because people around me to pressure me. I really wanted to marry someone by faith. But I couldn’t seek spiritual advice from anyone around me because everyone around me said that I should marry the shepherd. I could not trust anyone. For the first time in my life I turned to God in earnest prayer. I cried out to God, “Lord, please please help me.” To my surprise I was introduced to another shepherd the next day. After just one date, I married him. I thank God who helped me marry my husband not by other’s faith but by my faith.
23rd-Jun-2006 06:16 pm (UTC) - Re: Dr. Joon Ki Jung lies about UBF manipulation
Even such a strong person which is atypical in UBF was pushed and manipulated. She did not marry the first candidate, but she married the 2nd one. That is a typical pattern in UBF. Sometimes they allow that you reject their marriage "proposal". But woe to those who would reject a 2nd time! You are kind of forced and pushed to accept the 2nd proposal. "After on date, I married him." I think this wrong. People should not marry aftr only one date. You need more time to learn to know somebody until you can decide to marry.

Anyway, I wonder why they allow such a testimony to be published. She certainly has got a lot of privileges.
24th-Jun-2006 03:29 am (UTC) - Re: Dr. Joon Ki Jung lies about UBF manipulation
People should not marry aftr only one date. You need more time to learn to know somebody until you can decide to marry.

You are right. One date doesn't seem to be enough for anyone do decide whether to marry someone or not. UBF marriage policy seems to be: Marry any UBF man or woman first and you will have life time to get to know your spouse.

Becky seems to have been under ginormous pressure that any normal personal could not imagine. All she could do was at least not to marry the first candidate by any means. Considering all the scary contingencies surrounding her marriage if she didn't marry even the second candidate, she didn't seem to have any other choice but to marry the second candidate on the first date.

But as she confesses in her life testimony, she was under great pressure with no one on her side but everyone was on UBF side including even her own parents. Was she in spiritually and emotionally competent state to make such a huge decision under the highly charged circumstances she describes in her testimony? Was her decision really based on faith in God? Was her decision just an escape from her terrible circumstances and from the first candidate? Anyhow we just hope for the best. By the way I heard that there have been some people who became mentally ill during their membership period in UBF. I also heard that they mentally broke down especially during UBF marriage process and after UBF marriage. I can guess why that happened now.
23rd-Jun-2006 06:23 pm (UTC) - Re: Dr. Joon Ki Jung lies about UBF manipulation
"one is not manipulated against one’s will to receive this training in UBF." I want to claim that Dr. Joon Ki Jung is lying.

You're right. That is a lie. A shepherd who would not write testimony would be kicked out sooner or later. Even if you missed writing one week only, you were seriously rebuked.
24th-Jun-2006 03:04 pm (UTC) - She got gamed.
Becky's story isn't all that uncommon. I went through one failed "engagement" before I found myself getting married in 1995. She may have been "strong" enough to resist pressure once or twice, but in the end she succumbed to the pressure and fatigue described a while ago by ex-UBFSoul.

She seems to be trying to make it sound as if she made her own choice, but it's obvious from what she wrote that she was made to play the UBF discipleship game and lost.

A few things she wrote are quite telling:

* Her stated reason for not accepting the initial pressure from her parents is that she "didn't want to suffer." She describes pressure and UBF's equating "marriage-by-faith" with obedience to God's will, but she lets UBF off the hook and blames herself and her desire "not to suffer."

* Her relationship with a Christian man could not continue because he wanted her to leave UBF. She seems well-indoctrinated to put the UBF organization above all. What if her current husband wants to leave UBF?

* She writes about her own "faith," which is not the same as her own decision. She got shot-gunned into a quick marriage after one "date" with a man who was "introduced" to her by the same people who introduced her first "marriage candidate." Of course, she would have no business calling this marriage her decision.
24th-Jun-2006 04:09 pm (UTC) - Re: She got gamed.
She seems to be trying to make it sound as if she made her own choice, but it's obvious from what she wrote that she was made to play the UBF discipleship game and lost.

You are right. She lost and UBF won. As long as Becky married a UBF shepherd and remained committed to UBF, that was all that mattered to her parents and to the UBF leaders.

Maybe the UBF leaders and her parents thought that she didn't want to marry any UBF shepherds judging from her initial response to the first candidate. Then later they found out that she was willing to marry another UBF shepherd. And it didn't matter to them who she married as long as she married the UBF shepherd. This way of marriage by faith is the best business practice in UBF to keep any UBF member committed to UBF system.
2nd-Mar-2007 05:22 am (UTC) - Re: Dr. Joon Ki Jung lies about UBF manipulation
I recently found out that Korean UBF website went through major changes. As a result some links do not work. Becky's testimony is here http://www.ubf.or.kr/bbs/view.php?id=2006Missionaryconference&page=1&sn1=&divpage=1&sn=off&ss=on&sc=on&select_arrange=headnum&desc=asc&no=26
23rd-Jun-2006 05:36 pm (UTC) - UBF mind control: personal opinion vs. UBF opinion
Dr. Joon Ki Jung claims that “처음 <소감>을 쓰는 사람들은 말씀에 대한 묵상 없이 그 말씀에 대한 자신의 생각을 나열하는 경우가 많은데, UBF에서는 그러한 <소감>을 지양(止揚)하며 자신의 생각이 아닌 성경 말씀 자체를 정리하고 깊이 영접하도록 훈련을 줍니다 (Those who write a Sogam for the first time tend to list their personal thoughts about a bible passage without deeply meditating on it. UBF does not encourage such Sogams. In UBF one is trained to pay more attention to what the Bible says than to one’s personal thoughts so that he can accept the word of God deeply.)”

He says that UBF does not encourage one to list his personal thoughts about a bible passage in his Sogam without deep meditation but encourages him to pay more attention to what the Bible says. This claim seems to be harmless. Any good Christian should not speak just his personal opinion on a bible passage without much prayer and deep meditation on it. But this seemingly harmless claim contains a very serious spiritual problem in it.

Let’s just ask this simple question: How does UBF determine whether ones’ Sogam is just personal opinion or a good Sogam with deep meditation?

If a person writes a Sogam with a lot of criticism about UBF system, is it going to be considered a good Sogam with deep meditation or a poor Sogam with just personal opinion? If a person writes his Sogam based on Dr. Scott Moreau’s message and not based on Dr. John Jun’s message, is it going to be considered a good Sogam with deep meditation or a poor Sogam with just personal opinion?

What would Dr. Joon Ki Jung consider personal opinion? What would be Dr. Joon Ki Jung’s criteria to accept one’s Sogam as the Sogam that understands exactly what a bible passage speaks about? What would be Dr. Joon Ki Jung’s criteria to reject one’s Sogam as nothing but personal opinion? Consider for an example what Dr. Samuel Lee said about Jesus’ conversation with a Samaritan woman. Dr. Samuel Lee claimed that Jesus did not mind violating the Samaritan woman’s human rights. Would Dr. Joon Ki Jung consider this claim Dr. Samuel Lee’s personal opinion or a deep meditation that understands exactly what the bible passage speaks about? If someone in UBF writes a Sogam disagreeing to Dr. Samuel Lee’s claim that Jesus didn’t mind violating the Samaritan woman’s human rights, would Dr. Joon Ki Jung consider the Sogam a very good Sogam or a poor Sogam with just personal opinion?

Would Dr. Joon Ki Jung say that all UBF missionaries are competent enough to fairly and clearly distinguish personal opinion from deep meditation? Would Dr. Joon Ki Jung agree to the claim that all UBF missionaries are not competent enough to do the job due to their blind obedience to Dr. Samuel Lee’s false theology and UBF system? I had this personal experience in Chicago UBF that I was “ordered” to rewrite my testimony because I did not copy Dr. Samuel Lee’s message even though my conscience told me that I should speak about what I believed about the bible passage.

I want to conclude that Dr. Joon Ki Jung is not spiritually and academically competent enough to understand the full implication of training anyone to pay more attention to what UBF believes to be what any bible passage talks about than to his/her personal opinion. Under UBF model of Sogam training, one can be manipulated to believe what UBF believes about the Bible rather than he/she is trained to meditate deeply on what the Bible itself speaks to him/her according to his/her own good conscience. Only strong person like Becky can survive the manipulative UBF Sogam training.

UBF Sogam training is nothing but one of many manipulative tools that UBF employs to make campus students remain committed to abusive UBF system. UBF system is nothing but the Lee family’s private business organization being operated based on the shrewd business mind of UBFKoreans.
23rd-Jun-2006 06:21 pm (UTC) - Re: UBF mind control: personal opinion vs. UBF opinion
In short, UBF members write their sogams based on the theological (or rather ideological) background they know from UBF (which makes the interpretation one-sided), and they are told to apply the passages to their life (which makes the interpretation subjective). They don't learn to view the passage objectively, read background information about historical context etc., and compare various interpretations by scholars, without immediately thinking about personal application or UBF application/interpretation.
24th-Jun-2006 04:47 am (UTC) - Re: UBF mind control: personal opinion vs. UBF opinion
They don't learn to view the passage objectively, read background information about historical context etc., and compare various interpretations by scholars, without immediately thinking about personal application or UBF application/interpretation.

It is my 'opinion' that in order to write a good Sogam, one must be trained to view the passage objectively, read background information about historical context etc., and compare various interpretations by scholars, without immediately thinking about personal application or UBF application/interpretation. But in UBF, a good Sogam is the one that copies Dr. Samuel Lee's message word by word and accepts Dr. Samuel Lee's message absolutely as God's message and obeys Dr. Samuel Lee's messges absolutely even to the point of death. UBF Sogam training is not desined to help one deeply meditate on the word of God itself but it is desined to help one blindly meditate on Dr. Samuel Lee's false theology.
24th-Jun-2006 09:02 am (UTC) - Re: UBF mind control: personal opinion vs. UBF opinion
But in UBF, a good Sogam is the one that copies Dr. Samuel Lee's message word by word

Yes, that is one point. You have to copy what has already been said in the Sunday message which again is a copy of Samuel Lee's message.

Plus, there are two other parts that a "good" sogam needs: 1) You need to repent that your performance concerning recruiting or your obedience to UBF leaders was not good enough, and 2) you have to make a promise that your performance and obedience will become better. This is what makes the sogam interpretation subjective. No matter what the Bible passage is about, you have to force it to mean something that has to do with your personal UBF situation.

In my chapter we were instructed that every sogam should start with a "review of last week." Such a "review" typically looked like that:

Review: Last week I learned that I should work more diligently inviting students and I promised to go to the campus 5 times. But after 3 days I became lazy again and missed visiting the campus. I repent for my easy-going life mentality and my lacking shepherd heart.

Then came the main part of the sogam where we would basically repeat what our chapter leader had already said in his message (which everybody had available in written form, for ease of copying, and which in turn was based on Samuel Lee's message).

Then the third part was called "outlook". You had to write down a decision to do it better than last week, and make everything look as if it was based on the passage. The UBF member learns to let basically every Bible passage mean the same to you: "You are lazy, you are not spiritual enough, work harder...". E.g.

Outlook: Through this week's lesson, I learned to have a greater shepherd heart for my sheep and to fish at least 2 new sheep. I decide to go to the campus 5 times a week. Additionally, I decide to attend the early morning meeting without exception. May God...

Then came the "one word", and finish. Can you imagine listening to 15 of such sogams (all based on the same Sunday message that you already heared and studied anyway) in one evening?

I found the following definition of "Indoctrination" in the Internet:

Indoctrination: To teach a doctrine, principle, etc., usually through repetition and adherence to authority, rather than a truly heuristic method.

We talked a lot about the problem of "adherence to authority" in UBF. But sometimes the aspect of repetition is overseen. I think it is also very strong in UBF.

This article says: "The process of indoctrination by repetition rather than reason is frequently termed brainwashing. The Communists are adept at this also. They tell a lie, make it big, repeat it often, and the majority of people believe them.

Take for instance the basic axiom of UBFers that "UBF = God's work". This is repeated so often in the sogams and everywhere in UBF, that it really becomes a base axiom of all your thinking. Subconciously, because this is repeated over and over again, it becomes a fact for you, not a claim.
24th-Jun-2006 03:57 pm (UTC) - Re: UBF mind control: personal opinion vs. UBF opinion
Can you imagine listening to 15 of such sogams (all based on the same Sunday message that you already heared and studied anyway) in one evening?

Right. UBF Sogam training is indoctrination by repeatition which UBF calls a heavenly banquet. I remember that Chicago Friday Sodam meeting was furnished with Popeyes fried chicken or Kentucky fried chicken from time to time to disguise the indoctrination session as a heavenly banquet. Then during the intermission someone would pray "Our most gracious heavenly Father, thank you for these fried chicken who sacrificed their precious lives to participate in our indoctrination meeting. Help us to eat them deliciously with thanksgiving heart..." Then some people giggle here and there during the prayer as if they were supposed to giggle at this part of the prayer. I felt so awkward to be there with the poor chickens who sacrificed precious their lives for the indoctrination session. After you eat these Popeyes fried chickens, you become totally mindless and just say ‘Amen’ whenever other Korean missionaries say ‘Amen’.
24th-Jun-2006 10:34 pm (UTC) - The purpose of the Sogam and its shortcomings
To add to this, it is important to note that one of the purposes of the Sogam, as I understand it, is to give a spiritual growth report on a weekly basis. Now, one will not willingly reveal their innermost struggles and desires to a bunch of people they don't know. I can't tell you how many other shepherds and shepherdesses who shared at the Chicago Friday meetings told me that they just wrote whatever they could to appease their Shepherd and to fit in with the rest of the crowd. UBF teaches that the sogam is a tool for spiritual transformation, but in fact, it does the exact opposite. Spiritual transformation occurs best within the context of a Godly relationship between friends, when there is mutual trust and 100% confidentiality. One cannot expect to be changed through sharing weekly testimonies based on Bible passages that may or may not be relevant to the struggles they are dealing with. This "cookie cutter" lifestyle is sure to produce once kind of person, a UBF Shepherd. UBF teaches conformation transformation based on works and not faith in God. No, the sogam practice is one of superficial appearances, whose ilk bears no reflection of true, spirit-led transformation. The sogam is a farce and it is impossible to experience God's transforming power in one's life through a watered down template of generalizations.

This sogam style testimony is also indicative of the spiritual hierarchy prevalent in UBF. The sheep reveals their spiritual growth to the leadership, and the leadership doesn't do likewise. It further confines and separates the Holy Spirit from working in people's hearts and minds. The sogam was a device created by Samuel Lee to control people and use it against them.
25th-Jun-2006 03:38 am (UTC) - Re: The purpose of the Sogam and its shortcomings
UBF teaches that the sogam is a tool for spiritual transformation, but in fact, it does the exact opposite.

That is a very good point. I think there is a more serious problem with spiritual transformation or spiritual growth in UBF. The problem is that the definition of spirtual transfomation or spiritual growth in UBF seems to be very different from that of what most other Christian communities accept. What I mean is that even before we can talk about spiritual transformation or spiritual growth in UBF, we must know what UBF regards as spiritual transfomation or spiritual growth. For example, in UBF those who can accpet UBF marriage by faith are considered spiritually mature people. But those who do not accpet UBF marriage by faith are considered "humanistic" and "rebellious". Spiritual growth and spiritual transformation in UBF are measured based on one's willingness to comply to UBF system and UBF theology. In this sense, talking about spiritual growth in UBF is ridiculous. Maybe I should say it is impossible even to discuss spiritual growth under UBF model of spiritual transformation.
25th-Jun-2006 11:59 am (UTC)
On the Washington UBF website, they explain how to write a UBF testimony" (they call it "Bible" testimony, but what they mean is a UBF testimony):

When you write a testimony, first of all, please pray. Pray before you start. Pray as you write. Pray when you are finished. Testimony writing should be an act of prayer directed toward God from first to last.

Next, do it. The only way to start writing a testimony is to start writing a testimony. If you get stuck, pray and ask for God’s help. Then look at a message or lecture that someone else has written to stimulate your thinking and get more ideas. In UBF we have many excellent messages and lectures written by Dr. Lee, Mother Barry, Pastor Ron Ward and other well trained Bible teachers. Don’t make the mistake of thinking that your testimony must be completely original, coming entirely from your own head with no input from anyone else. Originality is good, but learning from others can be even better. But don’t simply copy a message; make it your own.


I see here "pray" and "do", but not "think" and "study". Where they encourage you to read commentaries, they only refer to Lee, Barry, Ron Ward who they claim to be "well trained Bible teachers" which is not true. They explain that you should copy your testimony from them, but you should not think it is a copy, but basically make their thoughts your own. This is the UBF method of producing clones (Koreans are very good in cloning as we know).
25th-Jun-2006 06:30 pm (UTC)
On the Washington UBF website, they explain how to write a UBF testimony" (they call it "Bible" testimony, but what they mean is a UBF testimony):

Thank you for the link to Washington UBF website. The aticle there clearly reveals what UBF teaches about the Bible study and UBF testimony writing. I find it very troubling to read so many questionable claims there made by Washington UBF (I am assuming it was produced by Washington UBF.) I would like to discuss this in another post soon.
25th-Jun-2006 06:44 pm (UTC)
This is the UBF method of producing clones (Koreans are very good in cloning as we know).

I agree with you. In the movie The 6th day, they create a clone and progam its mind so that the clone takes the exactly identical personality. Programming mind was the most intriguing part of the movie to me. I think what Samuel Lee tried to do was to make each UBF member Samuel Lee himself so that no one could run away from his organization. This is a very good business mind because no one in UBF would try to run away from UBF if everyone in UBF act like Samuel Lee and think like Samuel Lee and speak like Samuel Lee and write like Samuel Lee. So basically Samuel Lee turned each one in UBF to his clone and as you know he was very good in doing that.
25th-Jun-2006 07:26 pm (UTC)
Actually, it was a bit more complicated. He did not want people to become clones of himself, because he wanted to stay they boss and be "different."

I think he had two "templates" for the clones: One for the "leadership material" and the second for the rank and file membership. The members and leaders should become clones of each other.

If is frightening to see how similar they are in all of the UBF. And within one chapter, UBFers are even more uniform. I can see this particularly clearly in the Bonn UBF shepherds. Even how they speak is exactly the same: The same vocabulary and phrases, and even the same strange intonation, peculiar to the Bonn UBF chapter. They all speak so wierdly, yet they all speak wierdly in the same way. Absolutely creepy. Peter Chang published a video testimony of Joachim, where you see how he completely adopted this peculiar way of speaking again. From the way he speaks alone, even if you neglect the content what he is saying, it is already clear that he has retracted to his brainwashed "cult self" again.
25th-Jun-2006 08:15 pm (UTC)
Peter Chang published a video testimony of Joachim, where you see how he completely adopted this peculiar way of speaking again.

Mabybe Peter Chang is a clone of Samuel Lee. In fact they look very much alike and with almost the same height. Don't they also wear glasses? Now I am worried that the UBFKoreans might try to apporach Dr. Woo Suk Hwang to clone Dr. Samuel Lee so that they could continue to conquer the European countries and Asian countries. I think the UN should create a list of humans who should never be cloned in the future such as Samuel Lee, Adolf Hitler, Kim Il Sung, and emperor Hirohito :-)
26th-Jun-2006 09:06 am (UTC)
It's so good that God created us all differently. This makes living with other people somewhat liveable and interesting.

Concerning Peter Chang, yes he is pretty similar to Samuel Lee. His figure, but also the way who he sits when they make pictures, how he puts his hands on his legs and how he looks, same as Lee.

Have a look at this photo where he is guest in a Greek UBF chapter. He is sitting there with an aura of power, self-importance and complacency; compare this with the appearance of the actual Greek chapter leader jammed in between Peter Chang and Kaleb Hong. A newspaper article once compared Peter Chang's appearance with a "little Buddha".
27th-Jun-2006 02:59 am (UTC)
compare this with the appearance of the actual Greek chapter leader jammed in between Peter Chang and Kaleb Hong

I enlarged the picture and took a close look at it. If you look at the Greek chapeter leader closely, you will find that he is not smiling. But everyone else is smiling including Peter Chang and Kaleb Hong. You will also notice that the Greek chaper leader looks skinny compared to Peter Chang and Kaleb Hong. The Greek leader's face also looks dark when Peter Chang's face and Kaleb Hong's face look bright and oily. It looks like the poor Greek chapter leader is being sucked up by Peter Chang and Kaleb Hong. Something doesn't look right with the Greek chapter leader.
25th-Jun-2006 12:05 pm (UTC)
"Sogam(所感, testimony), according to Chinese translation, is to express one’s thought on something. Its English translation is to confess one’s Christian faith."

They use the word "testimony" in English, to make it sound more Christian. In German, they use the word "Stellungnahme" which is not used in German Christianity. They use the word "Zeugnis" ("testimony") only for life testimonies. But the weekly sogams are called "Stellungnahme." This German word which has no exact English translation means a (personal) opinion or statement about some matter, it means revealing your position and committing yourself to it. Actually, it is something that UBF leaders always avoid to do.
26th-Jun-2006 09:32 pm (UTC) - UBFers don't cry out to God, but to men
"I couldn’t seek spiritual advice from anyone around me because everyone around me said that I should marry the shepherd. I could not trust anyone. For the first time in my life I turned to God in earnest prayer. I cried out to God, “Lord, please please help me.”"

Notice that as soon as a person stops trusting in UBFers to be the Holy Spirit for them, they turn to God with their problems and questions. This is how it should be for a Christian - to go to God, not humans, for your spiritual needs. But Becky says that she did this FOR THE FIRST TIME IN HER LIFE. So that is how stunted a spiritual life in UBF is.
27th-Jun-2006 03:14 am (UTC) - Re: UBFers don't cry out to God, but to men
But Becky says that she did this FOR THE FIRST TIME IN HER LIFE.

This is not unusual among UBF 2nd gens. UBF 2nd gens grow up in an environment in which they are taught that UBF is the best church on earth and Dr. Samuel Lee is the greatest servant of God ever existed. So they tend to flatter themselves thinking that they are growing up in the best spiritual environment when they cannot even distinguish personal opinion from theological argument.

Some kids in Chicago UBF think that they are the best Christian because they are in CBF. But I've heard CBF kids have problems with internet pornography. But UBF leaders do not want to openly discuss problems related to their kids. In the meantime the 2nd gens can get away with a lot of sin problems and spiritual problems because they know how to write 'UBF testimony' and they know what their shepherds/parents want from them. They know the system and they also know how to manipulate the system. But the UBF shepherds/parents think that they are smarter than CBF kids.
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