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Dr. John Armstrong 
29th-Jan-2007 11:26 pm
The following article by Dr. John Armstrong was posted on UBF website. Dr. Armstrong says the following:

Two things have totally convinced me of the credibility of UBF. First, my own personal relationships with UBF leaders. I have taken the time to get to know Pastor Ron Ward of the Chicago UBF very well. We have shared hours and hours of fellowship over the past twelve months. I know this man and I love his heart for God and for the gospel. He is a sound, humble, and Christ-centered servant. He is willing to admit his mistakes and is personally gracious almost to a fault. I have come to love him and I deeply admire him. When I pursued these charges with Ron he answered them in ways that I found convincing and credible. He admits that there were errors the group made in the past and more things will likely be discovered and need further correction in the future. But Ron seeks to grow and be faithful as a servant of the church. And he is both accountable and genuinely teachable.
31st-Jan-2007 02:36 am (UTC)
Thank you Nick and Chris for posting your responses to Dr. Armstrong's article. I think it is very important that we let him know we do not agree with him and find incoherencies in his theological reasoning. Let's hope that he may give more serious thought to his position about UBF. I think it is also important that we post the real issues about the truth of the credibility of UBF system among the disgusting flattery and self-deception among UBF defenders posted on Dr. Armstrong's website. I think there was a person named Fernando who seemed to have posted opinion disagreeing with Dr. Armstrong. But I don't know Spanish. I am guessing because I could find Spanish word like 'abusivos'.
31st-Jan-2007 04:16 am (UTC) - lie detection software
There are several brands of lie detection software on the market. If any ubfleader would like to sit through a session with me, I could ask some salient questions about them and their beliefs and behaviors. IF a ubfleader, whether Korean or American or German, can be honest about anything, that would mean an awful lot. We can make the results public information, and settle these controversies once and for all. Either they are liars or we are liars. Any takers among ubfleaders? Could this great Christian man Ron Ward undergo some quick lie detection interview? I am of the opinion that there is not one honest ubfleader anywhere.
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