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On the occasion of another UBF Founder's Day 
7th-Oct-2011 11:54 am
Yes, they're still at it. They're still celebrating "Founder's Day". These days, it's with powerpoint slide shows with old photos of Lee and family with shimmering background music. Here's another reminder, in the form of the following links, that UBF's founder was an unregenerate and abusive autocrat from pretty much the beginnings of UBF, as many have testified:

It's said that some folks in UBF are waking up these days to the dark aspects and "ugly sides" of UBF, past and present. But from what I see, even those folks can't bring themselves to trace that darkness and ugliness back to its primary source.
10th-Oct-2011 08:19 pm (UTC)
Unfortunately, many cannot even acknowledge the fact that the ugly sides of UBF exist.

I'd like to point out that those three reform movements you mention were led by Korean UBF missionaries and had much Korean influence. This negates my prior defense that UBF's dark side can be explained away by culture issues.

I would add that 2011 is a new movement. I call it the "Independence Movement" because I and my friends see little or no hope to reform UBF practices. Therefore we have been exiting UBF, which is like a skeleton of dry bones.

11th-Oct-2011 07:19 pm (UTC) - UBF's dark side
Indeed, UBF's dark side cannot be explained away by culture issues. It's just wrong, and there are many Koreans that are ex-ubfer's who know that, irrespective of culture, as you recognized.

It's interesting that UBF can dish out repentance pressure to others, but cannot take any of its own medicine. I find them, on average, still with their heads-in-the-sand regarding the horrible abuses of people at their hands, wishing they would all just be forgotten. UBF owes a huge apology to many people, but I think it will never come forth.

A remarkable thing is that many UBFers brag about how "things have changed" (supposedly for the better) since Samuel Lee passed away while much of the status quo still remains.

One last point: UBF often seems to focus on world mission at the expense of the One who commanded it.
10th-Oct-2011 09:07 pm (UTC) - silent exodus
is a silent exodus, for 10 years has been weaker and weaker UBF have tried to restructure the chain of command but it seems that it does not work either. the same is true in Korea where it seems every time there are more students who are vaccinated against this disease called UBF.
10th-Oct-2011 10:05 pm (UTC) - Re: silent exodus
A few months ago, I received some emails from a Korean man who claimed to be one of the first sheep of Sarah Barry and Samuel Lee. His facts checked out, from what I could gather.

Interestingly, he complained of the same "dark side" principles (that we all experienced in the 1980's, 1990's, 2000's and this year) happening in 1958 or so, before ubf officially began. He might have already contacted people here. I told him I would publish his story.
15th-Jan-2012 09:16 pm (UTC) - Re: silent exodus
My only issue with your statement is the use of the word "disease". UBF is far more dangerous than a simple disease. They are a cancer which is introduced through attending one Bible study or Sunday service and then spreads until it takes over a person's life. It metastasizes through fishing and sometimes through family members or friends accepting someone's invitation. I saw two whole families in Columbus that got sucked in and my sister joined because I encouraged her to. Thank God we both finally came to our senses and got out.
13th-Oct-2011 02:33 pm (UTC) - unstoppable
Here in Mexico it is the same, there are many stories of people fleeing UBF because they promise a change and talk about a change but just do not see coming. since 2005 began the silent exodus which are disappearing from 2 of 3 to 5 people continuously. discursion has been the subject of how to stop this situation. but I think that is unstoppable. I think eventually UBF remains what it is and each individual may only make the decision to be faithful to their convictions, this sect, or chose to follow God.
24th-Oct-2011 02:25 pm (UTC) - gravesite photos
And they are still taking gravesite group photos:


I always thought these things were strange, but I never said anything. It is also strange to see pictures of Samuel Lee in people's houses, sort of like the Buddhist house shrines. And it was disturbing to me to walk through the Samuel Lee shrine in Korea.
15th-Jan-2012 09:27 pm (UTC) - Re: gravesite photos
I always thought it was strange that his name was spoken with such reverence. And yet, when my chapter visited Chicago, I was so thrilled that he called me by name when we were leaving the center and said he wanted to send me somewhere.

But I never anticipated something like this; it's like they are worshiping him. Especially how they preach on his key verse, Ephesians 2:10.

My first reaction was to feel that the verse has become tainted by being associated with him. However, I'm glad that the word of God is more powerful than any use to which man tries to bend it and that it is not weakened by man's influence.

Ephesians 2:10 has always been a powerful verse for me because it encouraged me when I had no sense of self-esteem by revealing that God had set me aside for a special purpose.
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