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Penn State Scandal: Sandusky found guilty 
23rd-Jun-2012 03:26 pm
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(This is related to a previous post.)

Jerry Sandusky was found guilty yesterday on 45 counts. And no one was surprised. Yet, if I may play devil's advocate for a moment, where was the video- or audio-taped evidence of him sexually abusing those 10 boys over a 15 year span? All the prosecution had was the word of witnesses, those who had been directly abused by Sandusky and those who claimed to have witnessed abuse by Sandusky. The defense brought witnesses who vouched for Sandusky's character and testified how he was a "hero" in the community, how he had helped hundreds (if not thousands) of vulnerable and underprivileged boys. Those who loved and admired Sandusky over the years would probably greatly outnumber those who accused him of these heinous crimes. Yet, Sandusky was found guilty on 45 of 51 counts. Why? Because the testimony of multiple abusees and witnesses is the clear evidence of his crimes. This standard of evidence isn't just a biblical thing (Deut. 19:15-19). Any rational system of justice has to operate on this standard: The charges are believable and serious (sexual abuse), there are multiple witnesses (8 of the 10 abusees testified against Sandusky), the witnesses are credible, there is no evidence of a conspiracy against the accused. The system depends on the jury being rational enough to know that these many victims/witnesses would not just make up these stories when it is painful for them to come forward with their accounts of abuse.

In past arguments with UBF defenders about the many abuses of Samuel Lee, I've run into this exasperating argument that there is no video or audio of Lee's abusing people, and also arguments like "I wasn't there, so I don't know" or "Well, he helped thousands, didn't he?" And this is in spite of witnesses to his abuses that go back as far as 1976. In an abusive system, a rational system of justice doesn't exist. In an abusive system, a rational standard of evidence based on the testimony of two or more witnesses is tossed aside, and abusive leaders are allowed to lead and abuse for years with no consequences.
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24th-Jun-2012 11:23 am (UTC)
Good point.
30th-Jun-2012 05:36 pm (UTC) - Defending Jerry Sandusky...
Here are some sample exchanges between a Sandusky defender and others. These were before the jury convicted Sandusky. The thoughts expressed by both sides may sound familiar:

(The emphases below are mine.)

by wade445 June 20, 2012 3:20 PM EDT
i am so sickened by the people on this comment board saying awful things about a local hero like jerry standusky. he has done so many wonderful things for both children and sports and the vile things being said by these awful websites is so awful!!!

jerry we believe in you!! you have been an inspiration to us all through this trying ordeal and we can all take a lesson from your example. keep your chin for as the lord said life will be trying but everything happens for a reason !!

meanwhile, to you "internet detectives", get a life! maybe there is more to this story, who knows? all i hear is a lot of "he said she said" and that adds up to a big fat ZERO in my book!!


by hatesSOPA June 20, 2012 3:26 PM EDT
SO Jerry says he's innocent that makes it so, but 10 people saying he's sick (in graphic detail) makes them all liars?
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by wade445 June 20, 2012 3:31 PM EDT
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sorry but you are the arrogant one here, thinking that a bunch of kids are more truthful than a local legend who has done more for football, sports, kids and children than anyone else in the world. he is a HERO and just because some of the people he tried to help have turned on him does NOT make him guilty !!

how many kids has second mile helped over the years? THOUSANDS? and just because 10 of them (which is what, maybe 2%?) are saying an awful thing about him, that means it's true? sorry, the statusistics are not in your favor friend!
you will be VERY embarrassed when the jury comes back with an INNOCENT verdict! loud and proud!


by hatesSOPA June 20, 2012 4:11 PM EDT
So what you're saying is that if someone helps 1 million people and molests 1 that's ok?
Or because 1,000 people were helped and never molested that these 10 have to be lying?
Sexual predators do not target everyone they come in contact with. They prey on the weak, the vulnerable, the ones that they can keep quiet. That's what these predators want - for people to turn a blind eye to their shady side and only focus on the good they do.
What would you do if your child claimed to have been molested by Sandusky? Tell the kid they're lying?
And these aren't kids. The victims are between 18 - 28 now. They are adults that have finally mustered the courage to come forward, fact their accuser and make sure he can never harm another person again.
If one kid is hurt by this monster, it's one too many. It doesn't make it ok if he's helped 10, 1,000 or a million. ONE IS TOO MANY. And there are 10 victims.

How many kids from Second Mile did Sandusky's lawyers get to testify in his defense? Surely, a fine upstanding guy like him could have gotten 100 or so out of all the thousands he's helped...
But no. These kids didn't want to step forward and tell people how great he was, because the truth is, he WASN'T. Sure, his foundation may have helped a lot of kids, but Sandusky himself is just a sick pervert who preys on young boys. He bullied them into silence or tried to make them forget about it by giving them expensive gifts and taking them places they had never been. But none of that excuses the other sexual things he did to these boys. Not one bit.


by KAKSR June 20, 2012 5:36 PM EDT
My only question is WHY ? Why would these folks lie about this ?
Not only the alleged victims, but McQueary and the janitor ?
It's possible Sandusky did a lot of good things but was also a pedophile. Think Catholic Church priests and the BTK killer. I'm Catholic so it pains me to say that.


by 8nina6 June 20, 2012 6:01 PM EDT
Everything done in secret shall be revealed.

LK 12:1 ...

Edited at 2012-06-30 05:37 pm (UTC)
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