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Moody beat ubf by 75 years 
26th-Sep-2005 12:55 pm
Hi,

Recently a new member Human12 joined us. Human is going to the Moody Church, which was founded by DL Moody in 1864. Not content with just a single church. Moody also began a publishing company, international evangelistic journeys (there were no jet planes) and what later became the Moody Bible Institute. His wife Emma, came to Chicago to take care of some of the many thousands left homeless by the Chicago Fire. She was an educated woman, a teacher at Ill. State University. When she came to Chicago she also helped develop programs for Bible teaching, home Bible study, and visiting others at their homes. She believed God laid a burden on her heart for urban evangelism. "Take men that have the gifts and train them for the work of reaching the people." This was the beginning of the Moody Bible Institute.

MBI was developed in 1886 for the express purpose of training young people to be the intermediate servants between the laity and the ministers. The school developed a resident faculty, a standard curriculum, and a Practical Christian Ministries program. All the things that ubf claims but does not have (and never will have), DL Moody was working on them 75 years before ubf even began to break off from the Presbyterian church.

When ubf broke away from the Presbyterian church, EE Chang Woo was taking incredible pride in his attempt to establish 'an indigenous movement'. I believe this is the fatal moment in the ubf movement, when the ubf was cut off from the body of Christ and others (as the pastor in the letter noted). There is no proof that being indigenous would make ubf any better or more helpful to the gospel. But that is what EE Chang Woo wanted. He did not submit himself to the will of God or the Presbyterian church, he purposely went against God and the Pres. church to fulfill his proud desire to be the leader of 'an indigenous movement'. One that is built upon flawed teachings, flawed systems, no integrity, no honesty.
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27th-Sep-2005 06:13 pm (UTC) - this is a long story
Hi,

This whole thing about the Pres. Mission and ubf blowing them off would make a long story by itself. I do have some info, it may or may not be verifiable.

First, ubf blew off the Pres. Mission. Second, both EE and Bury were receiving money from the Pres. Mission up to the very time they left for the USA, in 1975. (To me, this was extremely interesting as Ee always insisted he was supported solely by his own hands and even supporting the whole ubf.) Third, I have been told that Ms. Bury could not have been an ordained missionary as women were not ordained as missionaries at that time.

There are lots of things to check into, not many sources to check them with. I have some first hand knowledge, but have not been able to organize it yet.
27th-Sep-2005 06:46 pm (UTC) - Re: this is a long story
Hmmm ... ex-ubf beat me to the question regarding information on the split between the Presb. Mission and UBF. What you shared is very interesting. It appears from the very beginning, they were not honest.
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