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Thank God there is life after UBF! 
23rd-Oct-2005 09:12 pm
I spent ten years in and out of the Ohio State UBF chapter in Columbus, Ohio -- from June 1982 to May 1992. After I left, one of the Korean missionaries left a note which said "Please come back to God" at my apartment. I had the presence of mind to know the truth that I hadn't left God at all, but I did wander for a while.

The best parts of my life happened after I left UBF. I married a beautiful woman who was a believer. Through her prayer and support, I am growing in a new relationship with God at a church where we both are happy. We both are active in the church. I have a well-paying job where I am respected and my work is appreciated.

I thank God that when I didn't know what to do or where to go next, he had his hand over me and guided me where he wanted me to be.
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24th-Oct-2005 03:41 am (UTC)
After I left, one of the Korean missionaries left a note which said "Please come back to God" at my apartment. I had the presence of mind to know the truth that I hadn't left God at all, but I did wander for a while.

Thank you for sharing your experience on this forum. Praise God who has blessed your life greatly! May God continue to bless you and your family and enable you to serve him.

I just wanted to comment on one thing about Ubf system. The korean missinary put a note saying ,"Please come back to God." This makes sense only when the person whom he was refering to had left God. So according to the ubf missionary, leaving ubf is the same as leaving God. This is absolutely ridiculous. It is because if it is true, you should never ever leave Ubf unless you leave God! If the ubf missionary or the ubf doctrine is true, every believer in the Moody Church or in any other churches has left God! However, since this is never the case, the ubf missionary is absolutely wrong and the ubf doctrine is clearly false.

Is Ubf the one and only church in this whole world where God dwells? How did the korean missionary have acquired the strange knowledge? I think there are so many strange teachings in ubf. There is no biblical ground to support such strange teaching as you leave God if you leave a Ubf. It is only a politically motivated false teaching so the ubf system can stop anyone who attempts to leave its organization.

If anyone suffers or wanders off after he leaves Ubf, that must be the clear sign that the ubf teachings and practices are not biblically sound. If they were sound, they would rather help any member who left Ubf to do better and continue to move on with his life in a healthy and productive way in God without any human and spiritual turmoil. But all ubf teachings and practices seem to be designed in such a way that any ubf member can survive only in ubf and will have very difficult time outside ubf system. So if you ever become hooked on to this system, you are hooked on to it for your life time. If you ever try to get out, you are deemed to go through dreadful collapse of your spiritual life and all human aspects of your life too unless God with his mercy comes to your aid. This system is so destructive. There are so many similar stories like this from many people who left ubf. The UBf system destoys life with such a false teaching as "you leave God if you ever leave UBF." So is there life after Ubf? I think the ubf system that makes anyone ask that kind of quesiton has already no life in it.
24th-Oct-2005 10:00 am (UTC)
If the ubf missionary or the ubf doctrine is true, every believer in the Moody Church or in any other churches has left God!

Actually, to be fair, the UBF doctrine is a bit different. They would not say that every believer outside UBF has left God. They would admit that "some" non-UBF Christians might be saved "by the skin of their teeth" and by the mercy of God. The point is that once you have been fished in UBF, then you need to stay in UBF or you will be ungrateful and considered to have left God. UBF considers their sheep to be their property - the property of the organization and of the shepherds. That's the basic aberration of UBF, discipling/shepherding and G12 movements. As one member said "first they save you then they enslave you."

So if you ever become hooked on to this system, you are hooked on to it for your life time.

Exactly. That's the point. The word "hooked" is very appropriate.
24th-Oct-2005 10:56 am (UTC)
By the way, welcome on board chevlion. I've also spent 10 years in UBF, but 8 years later than you. Thanks for sharing your testimony.
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