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Happy New Year to you all. Here is a link to a recent study that… 
2nd-Jan-2006 11:47 am
Dilbert
Happy New Year to you all.

Here is a link to a recent study that says "Sizeable Minorities [in the US] Still Believe Saddam Hussein Had Strong Links to Al Qaeda, Helped Plan 9/11 and Had Weapons of Mass Destruction":

http://www.harrisinteractive.com/harris_poll/index.asp?PID=623

What we can see here is that people are too quick to believe what the authorities tell them, particularly those with whom they identify (in this case, Bush voters), and the second problem is that once people started to believe something it is very hard to "unlearn" an idea they have become accustomed to and have become fond of. This is particularly true for "simple explanations". Nobody wants to hear the complex truth. Simple and black/white is much easier.
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3rd-Jan-2006 11:59 pm (UTC) - this is pure opinion
I am not going to post anything other than this on this thread. The US acted in the interests of the US, and Europe acted in its own interests. It would appear that you don't think your interests are the same as the US. Fine, but keep it to yourself. We have heard it, and we don't care to hear anymore about it. We get enough at home from cock and bull publications like the NY Times and the LA Times. (Arianna Huffington is totally discredited in this country. The Harris Poll has proclaimed that most Americans favor Roe vs. Wade and most Americans wanted Terri Schiavo to be starved to death. They are notorious for using false polling techniques. I am insinuating that you are quoting cock and bull news sources) Please refrain from using the examples of what Americans think about George Bush. It would be proper for me to say it is none of your business.

By the way, our opinion of Europe dropped just as much as European opinions of America. And we are supposed to be partners in defending the free world, ala NATO. So please just drop this line of discussion. Thank you.
4th-Jan-2006 08:50 am (UTC)
Nick, just for your information, I HAVE served 15 months as a as part of the NATO during the cold war, as your "partner defending the free world". And German soldiers ARE in Afghanistan, Kosovo, Bosnien-Herzegowina.

According to your wish I will drop this line of discussion, not because I think I have no right to have my own opinion or because I do not have much to respond and rebut, but 1) because it is off topic here and 2) it seems I'm not gonna change any of your opinions anyway.

Actually I, did not even want to discuss the US politics, but give an example of how easy-believing people are in general, and how strong the mindset of "I believe what I want to believe" is in all human beings - a mindset that makes it so difficult to speak with UBFins and open their eyes for the truth. My mistake was to use an example from US politics and mentioning Bush voters, where most members on this forum feel personally attacked, so they drove the discussion in a discussion about politis and not about general weaknesses of the human mind. Still it is amazing for me how you think it is ok and our business to criticize Koreans or UBFins, but when it comes to Americans, you react so ill-humoured and say it's nobody elses business. Unintentionally, your behavior is a good example of what I was talking about. Hope we can stay friends after having said this ;-)

I will stop this discussion for the reasons above, with one last word: You said the US acted in the interest of the US. I would expect from a Christian nation that it acts not only in the interests of its own country, but of the whole world. People are not only human beings with human rights and dignity if they are US citizens. Start to think globally, embracing and respecting all humanity and not only those of your nationality. I know that we Germans of all people in the world have the least right to "teach" others this lessons, still I think many of us have learned it the hard way, very deeply, and therefore I dare to do say this, because I am so deeply convinced of it.
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