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Is he really a Christian? 
7th-Jan-2006 06:47 pm
Isaac Kim's letter to the Reformers

After I have read Isaac Kim's letter, I could not but ask this: Is he really a Christian who worships God or a cult maniac who whoships Samuel Lee? I am not sure if he really knows the full implication of what he is talking about. I think not. If he is one of the top leaders in UBF-USA, then his mindset might represent very well the mindset of average UBFKorean leaders. I think Joe is right when he said that no one can grow spiritually in UBF environment. Anyway I wanted to post Isaac Kim's letter in its entirety for open discussion of the mindset of UBFKorean leaders. To see his letter click on comments.
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8th-Jan-2006 02:41 am (UTC)
King David did not treat God's servant like this.

There were two occasions where David spared King Saul. The first occasion is recorded in 1 Samuel 24:1-22 and the second one in 1 Samuel 26:1-25. Isaac Kim does not put both occasion in the correct context. His argument does not work because he is only interested in using the bible passages to glorify Samuel Lee.

It is very clear that David spared King Saul in both occasions. Isaac Kim is only focusing on the fact that David spared King Saul. He does not consider the rest of the passage where David defends his position and gives a clear argument against King Saul trying to convince him that what he is doing is not right before God.

He says in 1 Samuel 24:11-13, “…Now understand and recognize that I am not guilty of wrongdoing or rebellion. I have not wronged you, but you are hunting me down to take my life. May the LORD judge between you and me. And may the LORD avenge the wrongs you have done to me, but my hand will not touch you. As the old saying goes, 'From evildoers come evil deeds,' so my hand will not touch you.”

In 1 Samuel 26:20, he also defended his position and clearly pointed out King Saul’s wrongdoing by saying, “Now do not let my blood fall to the ground far from the presence of the LORD. The king of Israel has come out to look for a flea—as one hunts a partridge in the mountains." David did this in both occasions. First he spared King Saul and next he defended his position by giving King Saul counter argument. What David did was right before God:


A: sparing King Saul
B: defending his position by clearly showing King Saul that what he is
doing is WRONG before God.


Isaac Kim is telling us that David did only A. He does not talk about B. But the Bible clearly says David did both A and B. Then what could be the reason Isaac Kim talks about A and never mentions B? He should have known that David did both A and B. If he did not know it, he is not fit to be a bible teacher. If he knew about it and didn’t want to talk about it for some reason, then he has ruined his credibility as a witness because he has compromised the truth of God only to glorify Samuel Lee.

If he is appointed to the leadership position in a church, he should have also known the occasion where St. Paul directly opposed St. Peter in Galatians 2:11 which reads, “When Peter came to Antioch, I opposed him to his face, because he was clearly in the wrong.” Galatians 2:14 also says, “When I saw that they were not acting in line with the truth of the gospel, I said to Peter in front of them all, "You are a Jew, yet you live like a Gentile and not like a Jew. How is it, then, that you force Gentiles to follow Jewish customs?”

But Isaac Kim does not mention this occasion that is recorded in the Bible. His bible study is not truthful. His bible study is political. So we can say that UBF Korean leaders are not truthful with their bible study. They do political Bible study to protect their power hierarchy for the glorification of Samuel Lee.
8th-Jan-2006 09:09 am (UTC)
You're completely right here about the misuse of the Bible passage about King Saul. But the greatest abuse here is something different: That they compare a church leader in the time of the NT with an annointed King of Israel in the time of the OT. Jesus said clearly that all believers in him should be brothers and there should not be any hierarchy. Peter confirmed that all Christians likewise are the royal priesthood, all are annointed with the spirit. There are no special annointed Kings among the Christians. This is the greatest error that those people make who compare Lee with Mose or Saul.

And they are also self-contradictory. If they really believed such a teaching, they all should be under the hierarchy of the Roman Catholic church still. They all rebelled against the Pope.

But Isaac Kim does not mention this occasion that is recorded in the Bible. His bible study is not truthful. His bible study is political. So we can say that UBF Korean leaders are not truthful with their bible study. They do political Bible study to protect their power hierarchy for the glorification of Samuel Lee.

The ironical thing is that Kaleb Hong (now the UBF Europe leader, who showed a similar behavior during the reform movement) taught us that the reform leaders were "political" people. He defined "political" as having your own opinion, as trying to change a wrong system, and "unpolitical" as simply obeying and not caring whether things are ok, but simply trusting the leadership (simply trust, simply obey). He proposed this kind of unpolitical behavior as spiritual, and trying to change or criticize things as political.
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