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Please replace "TopSpot" with SamuelLee/SarahBarry/JohnJun", and… 
14th-Feb-2006 09:35 pm
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Please replace "TopSpot" with SamuelLee/SarahBarry/JohnJun", and replace "the kingdom" with "UBF" and find many more funny UBF comics here.

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14th-Feb-2006 10:36 pm (UTC) - never saying sorry= no repentance
Chris, this cartoon (the part about not saying sorry or "I was wrong") was actually very similar to a discussion I had with a current UBF missionary, Joshua Hong, at Wheaton college a few days ago. I talked to him for quite a long time. Here's how part of the discussion went:

me: What do you have to say about Samuel Lee making women get abortions, beating people, telling people to get divorces?

Joshua: We should repent.

me (by the way, I wasn't expecting him to say that; I thought he would deny everything;): When? When should you repent? Shouldn't you repent now?

Joshua: How do you know Samuel Lee didn't repent privately? He could have repented by doing world mission and taking care of other children well (Joshua said this last part in regards to the abortions.)

me: Joshua, if you are mean to your wife and say unkind words to her, do you repent by going out and being nice to other women? No. You go to your wife, apologize to her, and ask her for forgiveness. We know that Samuel Lee didn't repent because he never confessed his sin, apologized, asked forgiveness or made it right with those he hurt. He couldn't have repented privately because his sin involved other people. Those he hurt would know if he repented.
14th-Feb-2006 11:11 pm (UTC) - Re: never saying sorry= no repentance
That's bloodcurdling but that's their understanding of the "Gospel truth." Members have to deal with sin through confession, but leaders through covering up.



And that's somewhat familiar from UBF, too. The right (i.e. "leadership") "material" was exactly the terminology of Samuel Lee:


15th-Feb-2006 01:39 am (UTC) - Re: never saying sorry = no repentance
Joshua: How do you know Samuel Lee didn't repent privately? He could have repented by doing world mission and taking care of other children well (Joshua said this last part in regards to the abortions.)

His definition of "repentence" is the same definition that Sam Lee used throughout his absolute rule in UBF. Repent of abusing others by "working harder for mission," which doesn't ever address the system that encouraged the abuse. The UBF definition of corporate repentence is clearly no repentence at all. Such is the pattern of most cults and abusive groups.

Someone who abused authority to such a point in a normal church would be given the opportunity to repent AFTER BEING FORCED TO RESIGN from his/her office. Not only is there no repentence in UBF, there is also no justice. Such is the pattern of most cults and abusive groups.

Years after the ordered abortions (which Mr. Hong seems to admit really happened), Sam Lee was not only still in office but continuing to encourage the neglect of children, the giving away of children as a condition for certain UBF marriages, usurped the role of parents in UBF families, declared the intention to create a "concentration camp" to discipline UBF children, drove one to suicide (a case Mr. Hong is intimately aware of) and declared that another child's suicide was the result of "laziness." I don't call that "taking care of other children well."

A warning about Joshua Hong was post earlier.
15th-Feb-2006 07:49 pm (UTC)
Here's one I like, with a link to an appropriate article.

16th-Feb-2006 03:36 am (UTC)
The TopSpot cartoons with the Dance Man are making me smile right now because he looks like he's doing a UBF-trademark Russian Dance.

17th-Feb-2006 03:35 am (UTC) - "Burdens"
Another favorite:
21st-Feb-2006 04:12 pm (UTC) - "Again and again"
Here's another one that caught my eye with appropriate link.

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