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More background on American UBF recruits in the 80s 
9th-Apr-2006 03:11 pm
Pigpen
A series of letters from 1984-1985 involving Tom Brown and Sarah Barry and others was added recently to http://exubf.org. It sheds some more light on the situation of UBF in the 1980s, when UBF cemented a reputation as a cult in North America. See also these two past related posts:

http://www.livejournal.com/users/rsqubf/28705.html

http://www.livejournal.com/community/rsqubf/19604.html
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10th-Apr-2006 08:26 pm (UTC)
Thanks a lot for documenting this...
11th-Apr-2006 07:15 pm (UTC) - Mary Petti
Barry mentions a Mary Petti in page 3 of her January 12, 1985 letter. Mary was also a U. of Chicago student and a friend and roommate of "Chris." She was no doubt aware of Chris' inner turmoil about UBF and probably had her own doubts about UBF. Of course, Barry tries to portray Mary as wanting to stay in UBF, just as she tries to portray Chris. I remember well the bad-mouthing of Mary Petti's parents by Sam Lee from the pulpit. Lee and Barry overtly tried to turn her against her parents because of their opposition to Mary's involvement in UBF, and to some degree they succeeded. This was Lee and Barry's modus operandi with every prized "white American" recruit.
12th-Apr-2006 06:53 pm (UTC) - Barry and "godless psychology"
I see in these letters a tendency in Barry to condemn "godless psychology". This of course allows her to argue, as many cultists do, that there is no such thing as mind control, that everyone in the cult was there and stayed there "of their own free will." All this while they inflict crippling psychological damage on their victims and apply an oppressive gutter psychology to their recruits.
12th-Apr-2006 10:31 pm (UTC) - Re: Barry and "godless psychology"
This of course allows her to argue, as many cultists do, that there is no such thing as mind control, that everyone in the cult was there and stayed there "of their own free will."

However, they claim that exit counsellors or people from the "R-group" managed to "brainwash" various people (like the former wife of Chris Kelly or Andreas in Bonn) in only a few days. When I tried to confront "Fellow Christian" with that contradictoriness, he left the forum forever. They argue just as they like, without any consistency or logic.
30th-May-2006 04:27 pm (UTC)
The updated link to the series of letters is http://exubf.info/outside_material/american_exits_1980s.html
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