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Bonn UBF message on training 
8th-May-2006 11:29 pm
The following is an excerpt from Bonn UBF Sunday message in English. The main thesis is that Jesus gave his disciples storm training instead of a full day of vacation.

http://www.ubf-bonn.de/bbs/zboard.php?id=message_en&page=1&sn1=&divpage=1&sn=off&ss=on&sc=on&select_arrange=headnum&desc=asc&no=10


Why did Jesus give his disciples storm training instead of a full day of vacation? Jesus knew that his disciples were very strong fisherman. But they were still full of fear about the Pharisees. Because they didn’t entrust their life fully to God, but were in worry about their future, they were full of fear. So Jesus gave them terrible storm training to overcome their fear by believing in Jesus and entrusting their whole life to God.”
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9th-May-2006 05:25 am (UTC)
The message is based on Mark 4:35-41. Here the author claims that “Jesus gave his disciples storm training.” However if one reads the passage carefully, it will not appear to him immediately that Jesus had any "intention" to give his disciples storm training. Since the passage does not tell us directly that Jesus had "intention" to give his disciples storm training, the claim of Bonn UBF message that Jesus gave his disciples storm training cannot be directly drawn from the passage of the Bible. Therefore the storm training is UBF interpretation.

This is a good example of UBF's characterization of the relationship between Jesus and his disciples. Everything that occurs between Jesus and his disciples is some sort of training in UBF. Now there are all kinds of training in UBF. "Humbleness training" is the most popular one. "Humbleness training" is the best way to put anyone under the authority of any UBF shepherd. It seems that this practice of UBF training dictates the interpretation of the Bible rather than the Bible teaching dictates the practice of UBF training.

Whenever there is a need for some sort of training, then UBF shepherds select certain passage in the Bible and interpret it accordingly to justify the training. For example, Jesus told the Samaritan woman to call her husband. Samuel Lee used this passage and interpreted it such a way to interfere with his members' marriage life claiming that Jesus didn't mind violating human rights. Need to train someone to commit to UBF dictates the UBF Bible study.

UBF interprets everything in the Bible not only in terms of "training" but UBF goes further and claims that UBF shepherds have the "spiritual authority" to train their sheep. This UBF claim establishes the so-called "spiritual order". So from the simple story about the disciples and the storm, UBF establishes "spiritual order". This is like Dan Brown's cooking up "the Davinci Code" The message is based on Mark 4:35-41. Here the author claims that “Jesus gave his disciples storm training.” However if one reads the passage carefully, it will not appear to him immediately that Jesus had any "intention" to give his disciples storm training. Since the passage does not tell us directly that Jesus had "intention" to give his disciples storm training, the claim of Bonn UBF message that Jesus gave his disciples storm training cannot be directly drawn from the passage of the Bible. Therefore the storm training is UBF interpretation.

This is a good example of UBF's characterization of the relationship between Jesus and his disciples. Everything that occurs between Jesus and his disciples is some sort of training in UBF. Now there are all kinds of training in UBF. "Humbleness training" is the most popular one. "Humbleness training" is the best way to put anyone under the authority of any UBF shepherd. It seems that this practice of UBF training dictates the interpretation of the Bible rather than the Bible teaching dictates the practice of UBF training.

Whenever there is a need for some sort of training, then UBF shepherds select certain passage in the Bible and interpret it accordingly to justify the training. For example, Jesus told the Samaritan woman to call her husband. Samuel Lee used this passage and interpreted it such a way to interfere with his members' marriage life claiming that Jesus didn't mind violating human rights. Need to train someone to commit to UBF dictates the UBF Bible study.
9th-May-2006 04:19 pm (UTC) - training
Hi,

As an American recruit to the ubf, the harshness of the training was always presented as being from the Bible, and also as part of Korean culture. That is, in Korean society harshness was a sign of better education, and made for stronger young people, both kids and college students. And this harshness was carried to the point that the ubfKoreans disrespected anyone who would not accept harsh, whimsical training like at ubf. I heard so many ubfKoreans bragging about how they endured harsh training and became great.

But, from the Korean people I have met who have nothing to do with ubf, I never heard any of them brag about how growing up in Korea was so hard and made them a better person. Instead, they seem to be serious, emotionally balanced, and have respect for others.

Could you please enlighten us about any differences ther might be between non-ubf Korean people and the ubfKoreans who teach the gospel of training? I am interested because the ubfKoreans always hid behind 'cultural differences' as their excuse to do whatever they want to recruits, and would like to know if you feel there is any validity to their claims. Thank you.
10th-May-2006 01:38 am (UTC) - Re: training
Could you please enlighten us about any differences ther might be between non-ubf Korean people and the ubfKoreans who teach the gospel of training? I am interested because the ubfKoreans always hid behind 'cultural differences' as their excuse to do whatever they want to recruits, and would like to know if you feel there is any validity to their claims. Thank you.

I used naver.com to find out more about training in Korea. It is the largest search portal in Korea and has larger market share than Google.com. “training” translated in Korean is
훈ː련(訓鍊•訓練)[훌―][명사][하다형 자동사][되다형 자동사] 무예나 기술 등을 실지로 활용할 수 있도록 배워 익힘.
훈련 sounds something like this, /huljən/. It is very interesting that 훈련 is associated with 무예/muje/; 무예(武藝) military[warlike] arts. I could not do cross-reference work to find more about these Korean words. But my personal opinion is that the use of the word ‘training’ in Korea must have some connection with its use in military training. So maybe one brings up the image of military training when one uses the word ‘training’ in Korea. But in most countries military training is harsher than non-military civilian training. ‘training’ in Dictionary.com does not have association with military training. That is one difference between “training” and “훈련”.

Now in Korea military service is compulsory. There is a lot of criticism in Korea about this compulsory military service. They say that a lot of programs of military service are designed to force these young men to conform to pro-government ideology and pro-authoritarian system. All of UBF male missionaries must have gone through this compulsory military service before they were sent out. Naturally their understanding of ‘training’ must have been influenced by military training they received during their compulsory military service.

Where does biblical ‘training’ stand then? Is it more like civilian training or is it more like Korean military training? UBF’s favorite phrase in the Bible is “soldier of Christ”. So obviously training in UBF is like Korean military training in both theology and practice. But many bible scholars argue against UBF-like military training.

So there seems to be some difference in Korean ‘training’ and in American ‘training’. Does this difference in ‘training’ that stems from different cultural background grant UBFKoreans that Americans should try to understand Korean style of training and accept it? Not necessarily because it can be also said that UBFKoreans should try to understand American style of training and get along with it too. It should be absurd to say that the cultural difference should work to prefer Korean training or the cultural difference should work to favor American training. But in UBF the absurdity that the Korean style training should be accepted by all is forced on everyone because Samuel Lee effectively installed a military dictatorship in his organization.

Next does the severity of training make the training more effective? Not necessarily. It is true that some training must accompany more harshness than other training so that it could bring out desired effect. But again the harshness of the training itself is not the merit of the training. If the harshness of the training is the merit of the training, there would be no difference between training and torture. But I heard many times in UBF UBFKoreans brag about UBF training because UBF training is stricter than that of any other churches. They are right because UBF training is designed to abuse but the training of other churches is designed to ‘train’.
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